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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 20:16:42 GMT
If we submit a silence target for me, ours can override my silence target. I say CMD Silver to protect RR into Mal or Rorschach either person most likely to get us trouble, and then kill Turdburglar. We kill Mal or Rorsch and Turdburglar. This makes my kill less useful, but it is a logical choice, and now we know there is no doctor. Who would you like me to silence? Offensive or defensive? Right now I'm okay with the target provided by my mafia, but actions have not been submitted. Rokk: if you are still able, Mason with Darq tonight. Next phase let's kill colonialbob and Mal/rorach (if either are left alive, or Ignatz if not) I'd prefer to not mess with your action just yet, I think. No reason to tip your team off about your change. On the other hand, having mal or rorschachparadox silenced would be useful... Well, I like the items that I suggested. I think we should kill turdburglar. If I make the kill, my mafia will know I'm cult. I should not make the kill. The mafia should realize that turdburglar is a huge threat to the cult. Lets block Ignatz.
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Post by thinkpink on Aug 30, 2015 20:30:12 GMT
Respectfully, Quebbs I realize everyone always thinks they're in danger but not sure why you feel you're so high on lists. You aren't on Town radar, as of yesterday, and the Mafia didn't seem to be calling you out as Cult. MSU can get a two-for-one by killing me or gfish. People will feel we are tied to each other. More key is that MSU listed us both as Cult and if one of us autopsies that way, people will pause his lynch long enough to listen because Cult Paranoia overrides Caught Mafia. They'll lynch the other, figuring MSU may be on to something (and I -still- want to know how he immediately pegged his own teammate and me considering, traditionally, you can't recruit Mafia in most games. What keyed him off?). If I was him and had a demolished Mafia I wouldn't choose to NK my own teammate in case I was wrong; his whole goal is to have enough people keep getting thrown in front of his noose that his unknown teammate can whittle the Town. I think CMD'ing SL protects Roy. Even if the CMD'ed Kill then fizzles, at least Roy is safe. We know SL isn't immune to target alteration based on the BD. (Of course, to play Devil's Advocate, if a Guide is alive SL should be his target). Mal is still a serious concern tonite because while he knows MSU was trying to redirect attention, he also knows that MSU is likely to throw out some legit chance names as a way to live longer. Now, obviously, Mal doesn't Cop himself so that puts it to one of the others on the list. He's a good general MD or RB target dependant on what gfish recommends (he'll have a better idea which one needs used to keep us alive: Doctor, MD or RB). I don't think I'm high on any lists, but I do think you, gfish and RenegadeRoy are all lower than me. Iceman is above me though. So, going to sleep soon. My suggestions for actions, based on what gfish said: RenegadeRoy kills turdburglar Iceman CMDs Silver Lantern into rorschachparadox Quebbster blocks Ignatz_Mouse Gfishfunk plays nice Mafia member Rokk_Krinn stands by to use the portal when he sees fit (including right away to mason with Darq if so desired). I'm open to other suggestions though. Since gfishfunk and Rokk have both asked not to do the kill that limits the options significantly, but I guess Roy could MD Ignatz and doctor one of us (Ice or Rokk, I guess?) if you want to play it safe.
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Post by yellowranger on Aug 30, 2015 20:36:44 GMT
GFish:
Do you have information leading you to believe we should block Ignatz?
If you do not, and we ascribe to Iggy being the Jalkeeper, we should leave him be as the JK'er would be hard pressed not to JK MSU.
If we don't block Ignatz, we should definitely block Malakim. We don't want to leave a cop out there to do the copping thing and I'm sure that he will be looking into one of us.
If we don't block Malakim I suggest we silence him?
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Post by yellowranger on Aug 30, 2015 20:39:44 GMT
I don't like the fact that we're not using our Doctor. Also not using our misdirector in the process.
I don't like the fact that GFish is saying to block someone in Ignatz who is largely an unknown to us.
@mags: Can GFish at least allude to his action list being in place because he has information (possibly through his mafia or not) that says we should block, MD, etc etc a certain player?
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Post by thinkpink on Aug 30, 2015 20:53:16 GMT
I don't like the fact that we're not using our Doctor. Also not using our misdirector in the process. Calculated risk since I feel there's low risk of death for us. But as I said I'm willing to do the hit instead and we can MD Ignatz instead of blocking him. Almost forgot we can also override gfishfunk's silence target if we want. Malakim wouldn't be a bad idea, though that might make the mafia suspicious as it is very convenient if a "misdirected" silencer happens to hit the cop.
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 20:53:53 GMT
Note: gfish: You are now a double agent. You may still communicate with the other mafia and be assigned an action, but you may only take one action a night. Since your win condition is now a Rangers win condition, your Ranger action will always trump your Archer action. You are forbidden to talk about your former team mates either here or in the game thread. You may not say who they are, or what any of their powers are. Just like you can't tell the Archer crew about these guys. Rokk: As a brief ally to the Archer mafia, you may have learned some stuff from gfish. The restriction applies to you too. Forbidden to share either here or in the game thread! I'm really trying not to skirt this. Rationally, the vig and the SK are dead. There is also a Freddy that we are trying to control, and I know the mafia's target. I am in a unique position to see all night kills, absent bus drives and MDs. While I might not say what the mafia's plans are, I am aware of them. My suggestions are telling in what I don't say and who I don't target.
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 20:56:46 GMT
I don't like the fact that we're not using our Doctor. Also not using our misdirector in the process. Calculated risk since I feel there's low risk of death for us. But as I said I'm willing to do the hit instead and we can MD Ignatz instead of blocking him. Almost forgot we can also override gfishfunk's silence target if we want. Malakim wouldn't be a bad idea, though that might make the mafia suspicious as it is very convenient if a "misdirected" silencer happens to hit the cop. Well. I said in the thread, and on my mafia board: I hate the silence power. I really don't care who we hit, as Rokk will be expected to rescue them. We can just let me mafia power have preference and have Rokk rescue the person. Rokk: did you end up masoning with Darq?
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Post by Red Rokks Arena on Aug 30, 2015 21:01:02 GMT
I thought you were suggesting I do it following this Night phase dependant on what we see happening in the Day. Honestly, by the time that all happened and with DF traveling, masoning with him this last Night would have given us no time to talk.
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 21:13:03 GMT
Well, this is my third computer that I have logged into this forum. I'll use a forth one at work tomorrow.
No problem. You can save it and rescue whoever gets silenced this next phase.
I don't think the mafia is terribly suspicious of me at the moment. MSU says that he was just playing it up in the forum, but I'm not sure how much I believe that.
I think we should try to get rid of him soon.
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Post by thinkpink on Aug 30, 2015 21:23:51 GMT
Note: gfish: You are now a double agent. You may still communicate with the other mafia and be assigned an action, but you may only take one action a night. Since your win condition is now a Rangers win condition, your Ranger action will always trump your Archer action. You are forbidden to talk about your former team mates either here or in the game thread. You may not say who they are, or what any of their powers are. Just like you can't tell the Archer crew about these guys. Rokk: As a brief ally to the Archer mafia, you may have learned some stuff from gfish. The restriction applies to you too. Forbidden to share either here or in the game thread! I'm really trying not to skirt this. Rationally, the vig and the SK are dead. There is also a Freddy that we are trying to control, and I know the mafia's target. I am in a unique position to see all night kills, absent bus drives and MDs. While I might not say what the mafia's plans are, I am aware of them. My suggestions are telling in what I don't say and who I don't target. I think you are doing a fine job. I have been a double agent a few times too and it's dang hard to balance. How do you feel about MDing Ignatz instead of blocking him?
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 21:29:47 GMT
Totally fine with me.
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 30, 2015 23:17:32 GMT
Crap, its been 24 hours. How long do we have?
Quebbster [RB / NK] NK Turdburglar RenegadeRoy [MD+Doc / NK] MD Ignatz Iceman [CMD / Lawyer / vote add / NK] CMD Silver Lantern into Rosch Rokk [Mason Silence / NK] Mason at discretion gfishfunk [Silence / unRTable NK] Silence mafia target
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This?
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Post by Red Rokks Arena on Aug 31, 2015 0:28:07 GMT
Don't forget the big hot topic: whom should the doctor be protecting? Add that to your list and it looks find enough to me.
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 31, 2015 0:51:06 GMT
OH! I thought his powers hit the same person.
That is way better.
Quebbster [RB / NK] NK Turdburglar RenegadeRoy [MD+Doc / NK] MD Ignatz, Doc Quebbster Iceman [CMD / Lawyer / vote add / NK] CMD Silver Lantern into Rosch Rokk [Mason Silence / NK] Mason at discretion gfishfunk [Silence / unRTable NK] Silence mafia target
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Post by gblackrangerfish on Aug 31, 2015 0:52:15 GMT
I don't think my mafia will hurt Rokk at the moment, because even if they think he is cult, it would implicate me.
Quebbsrter should be an obvious cult recruit and has been really quiet. If they are not suspicious of him now, they will become so soon.
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